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> <channel><title>Comments for The Long Game</title> <atom:link href="http://longgame.org/comments/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://longgame.org</link> <description>Musings, questions, joking, learning, and fun</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:12:45 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>Comment on Setting the kids up to fail by Matt Warren</title><link>http://longgame.org/2011/11/setting-the-kids-up-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-4360</link> <dc:creator>Matt Warren</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:12:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=13514#comment-4360</guid> <description>My heart aches every time I read another sign or hear another story about how these kids don&#039;t want handouts; they just want jobs, and, as you said, to make a difference. It grates on me to catch snippets of conversation that dismiss this reality. And, I swear, if I hear one more person dismiss OWS protesters as &#039;hippies&#039; I&#039;m going to punch them in the mouth. Aside from being dismissive and condescending, it&#039;s wholly inaccurate, and a sign that certain among us are clearly missing the point.
Very well put, Erik. I always value your insights and contributions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart aches every time I read another sign or hear another story about how these kids don&#8217;t want handouts; they just want jobs, and, as you said, to make a difference. It grates on me to catch snippets of conversation that dismiss this reality. And, I swear, if I hear one more person dismiss OWS protesters as &#8216;hippies&#8217; I&#8217;m going to punch them in the mouth. Aside from being dismissive and condescending, it&#8217;s wholly inaccurate, and a sign that certain among us are clearly missing the point.<br
/> Very well put, Erik. I always value your insights and contributions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Setting the kids up to fail by Erik Hanson</title><link>http://longgame.org/2011/11/setting-the-kids-up-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-4359</link> <dc:creator>Erik Hanson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:06:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=13514#comment-4359</guid> <description>That point 5, in whatever variant it comes in, always reminds me of how much it used to suck to be a nerd. For 200 years before the internet, nerds would still stay inside, only they&#039;d read books instead of actively engaging with ... anything. The most mental activity involved in previous generations (unless you took it upon yourself to mess around with rockets or chemistry sets that would be illegal now), was daydreaming.Or you could go outside and burn calories by struggling to breathe while a bully sat on you.That aside, I was fully on board with the 80s movie theme of realizing that 80-hour corporate jobs were BS, and I still think that such jobs are BS. (It wasn&#039;t a new idea then, either. The Haymarket protestors in 1886 chanted &quot;8 hours for work, 8 hours for sleep, and 8 hours for what we will!&quot;)But the thing is, it&#039;s difficult to even get a job in a craft these days. I&#039;ve got friends who would love to be master plumbers, except the economic and institutional union walls make it hard to get in, slanted heavily in favor of Boomers, and hard to find work (I think by now we can agree that new construction is not the way out of the recession). I&#039;ve got friends with JDs who can&#039;t get hired as vacuum salesmen, because they&#039;re &quot;overqualified.&quot; I see the jobs they would be qualified for being offered only to those with 7+ years experience, and at entry-level pay.I think what&#039;s really going on is that the Boomers have not just continued to hold power, but have used that power in self-seeking and shortsighted ways.I get grumpy when people paint Gen Y with all this &quot;entitled&quot; talk, and you&#039;re right that the younger generation is what they were raised to be (in my mind, that&#039;s things like proactive, involved, and enthusiastic). In many ways &quot;entitled&quot; and &quot;spoiled&quot; are labels that show up when a Gen Y is being told she isn&#039;t yet old enough to help out in a meaningful way--which sort of plays against the whole &quot;Gen Y won&#039;t grow up&quot; angle. I think that Gen Y would mostly love to move out and have a solid 9-5, buy a condo and all that (and then quickly fill their extracurriculars back out with sports, hobbies and volunteering, as they always have), but not being able to get a 9-5 that will cover the cost of living keeps kids at home.It&#039;s a generation that isn&#039;t seeking acknowledgement so much as it&#039;s seeking to be allowed to make a difference, and constantly told that they&#039;re not eligible because they&#039;re not old or rich enough.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That point 5, in whatever variant it comes in, always reminds me of how much it used to suck to be a nerd. For 200 years before the internet, nerds would still stay inside, only they&#8217;d read books instead of actively engaging with &#8230; anything. The most mental activity involved in previous generations (unless you took it upon yourself to mess around with rockets or chemistry sets that would be illegal now), was daydreaming.</p><p>Or you could go outside and burn calories by struggling to breathe while a bully sat on you.</p><p>That aside, I was fully on board with the 80s movie theme of realizing that 80-hour corporate jobs were BS, and I still think that such jobs are BS. (It wasn&#8217;t a new idea then, either. The Haymarket protestors in 1886 chanted &#8220;8 hours for work, 8 hours for sleep, and 8 hours for what we will!&#8221;)</p><p>But the thing is, it&#8217;s difficult to even get a job in a craft these days. I&#8217;ve got friends who would love to be master plumbers, except the economic and institutional union walls make it hard to get in, slanted heavily in favor of Boomers, and hard to find work (I think by now we can agree that new construction is not the way out of the recession). I&#8217;ve got friends with JDs who can&#8217;t get hired as vacuum salesmen, because they&#8217;re &#8220;overqualified.&#8221; I see the jobs they would be qualified for being offered only to those with 7+ years experience, and at entry-level pay.</p><p>I think what&#8217;s really going on is that the Boomers have not just continued to hold power, but have used that power in self-seeking and shortsighted ways.</p><p>I get grumpy when people paint Gen Y with all this &#8220;entitled&#8221; talk, and you&#8217;re right that the younger generation is what they were raised to be (in my mind, that&#8217;s things like proactive, involved, and enthusiastic). In many ways &#8220;entitled&#8221; and &#8220;spoiled&#8221; are labels that show up when a Gen Y is being told she isn&#8217;t yet old enough to help out in a meaningful way&#8211;which sort of plays against the whole &#8220;Gen Y won&#8217;t grow up&#8221; angle. I think that Gen Y would mostly love to move out and have a solid 9-5, buy a condo and all that (and then quickly fill their extracurriculars back out with sports, hobbies and volunteering, as they always have), but not being able to get a 9-5 that will cover the cost of living keeps kids at home.</p><p>It&#8217;s a generation that isn&#8217;t seeking acknowledgement so much as it&#8217;s seeking to be allowed to make a difference, and constantly told that they&#8217;re not eligible because they&#8217;re not old or rich enough.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Spiritual Pop Quiz by Adee</title><link>http://longgame.org/2010/10/spiritual-pop-quiz/comment-page-1/#comment-4352</link> <dc:creator>Adee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:08:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=11159#comment-4352</guid> <description>I was shocked I got them all right! It was too Christian focused. We only got a couple of token questions about other religions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was shocked I got them all right! It was too Christian focused. We only got a couple of token questions about other religions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Hacking the Admin Assistant Role by Matt Warren</title><link>http://longgame.org/2011/10/hacking-the-admin-assistant-role/comment-page-1/#comment-4308</link> <dc:creator>Matt Warren</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:35:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=13432#comment-4308</guid> <description>I&#039;m glad you liked it, Roger. It&#039;s funny how a lot of my processes went from &quot;begrudgingly doing it&quot; to genuinely excited. Maybe it&#039;s that OCD, but it keeps me motivated. Can&#039;t wait to share more.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you liked it, Roger. It&#8217;s funny how a lot of my processes went from &#8220;begrudgingly doing it&#8221; to genuinely excited. Maybe it&#8217;s that OCD, but it keeps me motivated. Can&#8217;t wait to share more.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Hacking the Admin Assistant Role by Roger Travis</title><link>http://longgame.org/2011/10/hacking-the-admin-assistant-role/comment-page-1/#comment-4304</link> <dc:creator>Roger Travis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:25:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=13432#comment-4304</guid> <description>Hi Matt!I love this post. I temped a LOT in grad school, and loved the hacks that my predecessors in various places had come up with. The beginnings and endings of assignments were often genuinely pleasurable, when I got to trade hacks with fellow temps, some much more experienced than I, some much less. Those hacks have proven to be invaluable many times and in many contexts.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt!</p><p>I love this post. I temped a LOT in grad school, and loved the hacks that my predecessors in various places had come up with. The beginnings and endings of assignments were often genuinely pleasurable, when I got to trade hacks with fellow temps, some much more experienced than I, some much less. Those hacks have proven to be invaluable many times and in many contexts.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Please Select the Correct Answer(s) by Ed Webb</title><link>http://longgame.org/2011/10/please-select-the-correct-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-4302</link> <dc:creator>Ed Webb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:59:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=13420#comment-4302</guid> <description>4, 2, 7. Did I win?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4, 2, 7. Did I win?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Exactly the Same and Completely Different by Matt Warren</title><link>http://longgame.org/2011/01/exactly-the-same-and-completely-different/comment-page-1/#comment-4293</link> <dc:creator>Matt Warren</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=12278#comment-4293</guid> <description>Agreed. All the fire in the primaries gets fairly doused in an actual presidency precisely because the ship of state is so large and unwieldy.What&#039;s funny, is that I see the same &quot;give him a break&quot; tendency when I try to read the tea-leaves. The perception of presidents have  more to do with symbols than with what is/was accomplished.For instance, Reagan is (generally) beloved, yet he played a large role in this deficit mess. Republicans/tea-partiers love him, in spite of his having opinions that couldn&#039;t get him elected today. Democrats of the time demonized him, yet - if they thought about it - they&#039;d trade their firstborn for a Republican president as interested in fair-dealing.So, I shrug and continue to marvel at my nation. :) I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s comforting, or anything...Thanks for offering your thoughts, though. It was fun to revisit the post and consider the future with you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. All the fire in the primaries gets fairly doused in an actual presidency precisely because the ship of state is so large and unwieldy.</p><p>What&#8217;s funny, is that I see the same &#8220;give him a break&#8221; tendency when I try to read the tea-leaves. The perception of presidents have  more to do with symbols than with what is/was accomplished.</p><p>For instance, Reagan is (generally) beloved, yet he played a large role in this deficit mess. Republicans/tea-partiers love him, in spite of his having opinions that couldn&#8217;t get him elected today. Democrats of the time demonized him, yet &#8211; if they thought about it &#8211; they&#8217;d trade their firstborn for a Republican president as interested in fair-dealing.</p><p>So, I shrug and continue to marvel at my nation. <img
src='http://longgame.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s comforting, or anything&#8230;</p><p>Thanks for offering your thoughts, though. It was fun to revisit the post and consider the future with you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Farmville is not a Game by Matt Warren</title><link>http://longgame.org/2011/01/farmville-is-not-a-game/comment-page-1/#comment-4292</link> <dc:creator>Matt Warren</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:49:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=12224#comment-4292</guid> <description>It&#039;s quite fine to appropriate whatever you find here. I&#039;m happy you found something of value. I can&#039;t count how many times some odd observation from the internet turned out to have use elsewhere. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite fine to appropriate whatever you find here. I&#8217;m happy you found something of value. I can&#8217;t count how many times some odd observation from the internet turned out to have use elsewhere. <img
src='http://longgame.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Farmville is not a Game by Kevin</title><link>http://longgame.org/2011/01/farmville-is-not-a-game/comment-page-1/#comment-4289</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:54:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=12224#comment-4289</guid> <description>Always proof before print! Excuse the typo&#039;s etc.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always proof before print! Excuse the typo&#8217;s etc.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Farmville is not a Game by Kevin</title><link>http://longgame.org/2011/01/farmville-is-not-a-game/comment-page-1/#comment-4288</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:51:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://longgame.org/?p=12224#comment-4288</guid> <description>Matt,
It may sound a little wierd but I&#039;m using several components of your post for a sermon series I&#039;m doing at my church called Farmville. It&#039;s based upon the section of scripture from Matthew 13:1-23, the parable of the farmer who scattered seed or the parable of the soils. Many people play games with their spiritual lives but the problem is they think it&#039;s like Farmville ~ nobody loses. I hope it&#039;s cool with you that I used your several of your thoughts. We are having difficulty with our recording software but hope to have it fixed soon. Our website is www.pearlstreetbaptist.org and click audio sermons, if you should want to check it out in a few weeks or less I hope. - Kevin</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,<br
/> It may sound a little wierd but I&#8217;m using several components of your post for a sermon series I&#8217;m doing at my church called Farmville. It&#8217;s based upon the section of scripture from Matthew 13:1-23, the parable of the farmer who scattered seed or the parable of the soils. Many people play games with their spiritual lives but the problem is they think it&#8217;s like Farmville ~ nobody loses. I hope it&#8217;s cool with you that I used your several of your thoughts. We are having difficulty with our recording software but hope to have it fixed soon. Our website is <a
href="http://www.pearlstreetbaptist.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.pearlstreetbaptist.org</a> and click audio sermons, if you should want to check it out in a few weeks or less I hope. &#8211; Kevin</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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